Hybrid vs 7 wood

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By Brian C

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  1. Brian C

    Brian C
    novi, MI

    Anyone have any opinions one way or the other?  I was playing with a 21 degree Burner for years and hit it well, but decided to switch it out to a 21 degree 910F last year as this was the last club not Titleist in my bag and everyone telling me it would be more versatile.  Although I can hit it OK, just not as consistent like the 7 fairway wood.  Fairway seemed easier to hit both on the fairway or in the rough.    

    Is the new 913F 21 degree out yet to test?  I was at the local Golfsmith a week ago and no one could tell me when it was coming out.  

  2. eboos

    eboos
    Whitinsville, MA

    I've been playing around with the new hybrids for about two weeks now. Any shop that has a fitting cart should have the fairways and hybrids now.

  3. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I'm in the small group that prefers the 21 degree fairway over a hybrid.  I tried a couple of 19 hybrids that just didn't work and had a 21 degree Callie FW that I replaced with the 910F when the senior offset started hooking.  That and my 24 degree hybrid are my 2 most used clubs.  I need longer drives or shorter courses.....

    Fitters have the 913 metals heads now and the release date of off the rack is 2/8.

  4. Jake C

    Jake C
    Oakland, IA

    If I were you I would play the club you can hit the best. When it comes to woods it's hard to find a club that you like and hit good. I would find one and stick with it, but it take some time to get use to a new club. 

  5. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    I had a Burner 7 wood that I played for a year and a half and could hit that very well also.  I got a 910F 19 fairway and cut the shaft length to 41" and set the Surefit to A3 (59.5 lie angle - matches the Burner).  The 910F 19* plays like my Burner now but I hit it about 10 yards farther with a slightly lower trajectory.

    Just to reiterate - did you mean 910H 21 hybrid was the one you tested?  I have one but don't use it because it isn't easy to hit.  I carry a 27 hybrid and I can crush it.

    The 913F 21 fairway should work for you.  You'll probably want to play it with one of the more upright lie angles since you are used to a TM.  The standard lie angle on a Burner is 59.5* and that of the 910F/913F fairway is 58*.  Probably want to set the Titleist fairway wood Surefit setting to D3 to match the lie angle of the Burner.

     

     

  6. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    My winning combo since 2006 has been a 19-21 fairway and a 25-27 hybrid.  I also have a persimmon 10 wood (28.5 loft) that I have had for close to 3 years and have to retire it because the head cracked recently.  When I carried my 975 16.5 and 20.5, I had a 29 deg 9 wood that I could work between 150-185 yards (it cost me a whole $7.50 and I used it for 2 years along with a 3DX 29 hybrid until I got some G10s in 2008).

    For all of 2011 and until May of 2012 I played the combo of Burner 7 wood, SQ2 26 and 34 hybrids and got around the golf course pretty well.

    Like Don, I'm one of the few that prefers a 19-21 fairway over hybrids.  I discovered in 2006 that I fared better with a 7 wood vs a 3/19 hybrid.  The best I have hit a 20 hybrid is 180 yards, whereas I've hit a 7 wood over 200 yards quite often.  A fairway wood just has that "knock the snot out of it" feeling.  MY two cents is the 7 wood is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  There's not a lot of yardage gain for me between an18 fairway and 21 fairway (5-7 yards) - I can do quite a bit with a 7 wood.

    I played the 2010 season with a 980F 15* 3 wood, steel shafted persimmon 5/21 and 10/28.5 fairway woods. That 10 wood remained as a go to club until the early part of 2011 when I got the SQ 5/26 hybrid.

    I'm at the point where I can hit the 910H 21* hybrid about 170 yards but I get 20-30 more yards out of the 19F (which is set at 20.5 loft).  I get about 160 out of the 27H.

    I also set up my fairway wood pretty upright and with a short shaft (the 19F is 41" with a 59.5* lie angle). 

  7. Wesley M

    Wesley M
    North Augusta, SC

    I have 910 H 19 degrees and i love it, i think hybrids are easier to hit then fairway wood

  8. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Wesley M said:

    I have 910 H 19 degrees and i love it, i think hybrids are easier to hit then fairway wood

    I think the opposite.  In 2006 I discovered I hit a 7 wood much better than a 3 iron hybrid.  I had no problem hitting a 7 wood 200+ yards.  Best I've done with a 20 hybrid is 180 yards.  

    I went back to using a 9 wood after 3 years.   I tried for the past year to make a 21 hybrid work (first a Superfast 1.0 4-21 and been trying a 910H 21* since October). Sometimes I can get the distance I need and sometimes it goes barely farther than my 27 hybrid.  What I had been doing for the distance gap between a 7 wood and 5H since 2011 is choking down on the fairway.  I played with a persimmon 10/28.5 fairway wood (40" steel shaft) between mid 2010 - mid 2011.  The 9 wood does exactly what I need: 175 yards every time on a dime.

    Best for anyone is a side by side comparison.  There are probably some that could hit a 0H (14*) better than a 3 wood and some that could hit an 11 wood (27*) better than a 5H.  Different strokes for different folks.

     

  9. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I've just finished 3 years of playing.  I recently turned another corner (sometimes I think I'm in a circle) so I can now get a nice stroke with the AP1 5I (26 degrees) - used a 910H 27 set to 26.25.  Now I like them both.  I also have a 910H 24 set to 23.25, a 910F 21 set to 20.25, and a 910F 17 set to 18.5.  So I'm going back to the fitter and check flight and distances and make sure I've got the right gaps and see if I should consider any changes. It may turn out that I may drop one of the hybrids and look at the 21F set back to 22.5.  So, whether I use H or F will depend on comfort, dispersion, and distance.

  10. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Don O said:

    I've just finished 3 years of playing.  I recently turned another corner (sometimes I think I'm in a circle) so I can now get a nice stroke with the AP1 5I (26 degrees) - used a 910H 27 set to 26.25.  Now I like them both.  I also have a 910H 24 set to 23.25, a 910F 21 set to 20.25, and a 910F 17 set to 18.5.  So I'm going back to the fitter and check flight and distances and make sure I've got the right gaps and see if I should consider any changes. It may turn out that I may drop one of the hybrids and look at the 21F set back to 22.5.  So, whether I use H or F will depend on comfort, dispersion, and distance.

    The 910F 17* set to 18.5 and 910F 21* set to 22.5 might even be on the back burner for me.  I actually hit an 18 fairway pretty well and the 910F 21F set to that loft almost approaches 9 wood (24*).  The 910H 27* is an awesome hybrid.  

    My 910F 19* is a little tricked up.  It is A flex with the shaft set at 41", a Winn Dri Tac Lite oversize grip and Surefit setting of A3 (pretty closely matches how I had my 2K7 Burner 7 wood set up for length and lie angle - the 910F has a lower ball flight).   I actually hit this farther than a Superfast 5-18 that I had. Very workable club the way it is set up.

    At this point, the 9 wood is here to stay to fill the gap between the 19F and the 27H.   Between 2006-2011 I had been using a lofted wood of some sort to cover the gap between my 5/7 wood and hybrids (26-29-34, 28-32-35, 31-35).  I had good success between 2011 thru mid 2012 with a 7 wood and 5/26 hybrid.   I have been trying since last May to use a 21H to fill the gap between my fairway wood and 27 hybrids and invariably ended up doing a choke shot with the fairway.  The 21H would sometimes overlap distance with the 27H and I had some consistency issues.  I just acquired a 9 wood when I was helping a friend clean out his storage shed and it does exactly what I want and the distance is pretty tight.

  11. Brian C

    Brian C
    novi, MI

    Sorry everyone.  With the new layout it took me a while to get back to this blog.  LOL...Thanks Lou for your advice.  I think many misunderstood.  I been playing with the 7 wood forever and switched to a hybrid because all the talk about how easy they are to hit, even my instructor suggested it.  So I went to hit it probably about 4-5 times before I purchased it. I hit it well on the range but on the course I found it just not as reliable as my 7 wood for me personally.  I tried to like it and even switched out the shaft to one that had the similar specs to my 7 wood, but just was inconsistent.

     Another reason why I switched is just because the 7 wood is becoming extinct and I am not sure why as everyone I know that has one finds them much easier to hit than a hybrid.  Anyhow of course none of the stores here have a 913 7 wood (no surprise) and the one store said they will talk to the Titleist rep to see if he will bring one in for me to test first.  

  12. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    Brian -

    Especially as a LH golfer, there is no such animal as a 7W, except Titleist and company P.  Company C had (just) a draw model a couple of versions back for LH.  It is pretty much down to 3W/5W with most everyone else. 

    My first set of clubs were from a former Acushnet partner club maker, but it became clear that no one wanted to fit me with those and the rack selection was "the (1) LH driver" or a 3W in stiff only.  I migrated to Titleist because they carry a full line of clubs in (almost) all lofts and stock shafts from women to touring pro's.  Never have been comfortable with a 19H so my 4W/7W fit me just fine.

    You should be able to get fitted for a 7W with persistence.  I was fitted LH with a 910F 21 from an Advance Fitting Center.

  13. If you are looking for accuracy and going for greens, go with a hybrid. If you are just looking for distance and hitting the ball as far as you can, go with a 7-wood.

  14. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Henry T said:

    If you are looking for accuracy and going for greens, go with a hybrid. If you are just looking for distance and hitting the ball as far as you can, go with a 7-wood.

    It's all subjective and a matter of personal preference.  The golf industry is promoting hybrids big time as the greatest things since sliced bread.  The only company that carries a 9 wood is TM (RBZ).  For righties, most carry a 7 wood.

    Actually, 7 woods and 9 woods are the most accurate fairway woods around.  They are the same length and lie angle as a 17 hybrid.  I also have a persimmon 10 wood sitting around (can't use it now because the head is cracked) and I used to drop it on a dime from 165 yards; it has a 40 inch length steel shaft.

    The key to it is swinging conservatively.  I can knock the snot out of a 7 wood and hit it over 200 yards but if I want to stick the green, I'll swing easy and hit it 185-190. 

    The best thing I ever did was toss my 21 hybrid and go back to using a 9 wood. 

    By the way, in fairness to hybrids.... I have a 910H 27* and a Louisville persimmon 34*.  I stick greens from 160 and 145, respectively.  Last round of golf I hit my 34H from ~140 yards and came within a foot of holing out (sometimes I prefer the hybrid over my 7 iron although I hit both reasonably well).  The longest iron I have carried since 2006 is a 7 iron.  I've been using a 31-34H of some form or another in place of the 6 iron (I used to hit a 34 hybrid 160 yards in 2007; I'm good for 145-150 nowadays and I used to hit a G10 32 almost 170 yards).

  15. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    As one can see in my thumbnail. I carry a 913D2 driver and 913F 19* fairway. The shaft length on the driver is 44" and I recently went to Bassara S. The 19F is 41" with a Diamana 70 S and 14g headweight. Hybrids are 816H1 23 and 27 with a -3/4" shaft length and S70+ stiff. I went to blades on the 6-9 irons 1/2" short and 1/2* upright.

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