Iron shots don't hold the green....

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By Jon B

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  1. Jon B

    Jon B

    About 75% of the time when I hit an iron onto a green (say pitching wedge and other less lofted irons), the ball rolls past the green.

    I was fit this year into T300s. I would categorize myself as probably a short distance, slow swing, game improvement type golfer.....with a 9 iron around 120 yard carry. As my game has improved, and I'm hitting more greens from greater distances, I've noticed that most of them don't hold the green. I do use Pro V1s, so I know the ball isn't the issue.

    Maybe I need lessons on how to get more spin or ball loft, or maybe the high launching shaft? Or should I be looking towards T200s? If one factors out the loft difference, do T200s and T300s produce the same amount of spin?

  2. Brock L

    Brock L
    Fort Myers, FL

    Or maybe the ball IS the issue. Not every player will see advantages using a tour ball. Low speed, low spin players will not have the speed necessary for tour-level golf balls to perform as intended. For those golfers, the key is in the dimple design, which will cause the ball to launch higher, in turn landing with a steeper angle of decent, which helps hold the green. A softer-core ball will also help create more ball speed, leading to longer drives and overall distance.
  3. Frank P

    Frank P
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    Military
    I would suggest getting together with a PGA teaching pro. Time and money well spent.
  4. brandon w

    brandon w
    Dalzell, SC

    Military
    The clubs are engineered to provide the launch, spin, distance, and landing angle it should take to hold a green. I would still get lessons to optimize your swing, but the fitter could have probably done a better job to find something that works better for what you do have. Your strike on the ball is the single biggest factor on launch/spin characteristics.
  5. Dale V

    Dale V
    Surprise AZ

    Yep Jon, multiple factors come into play and some will be out of your control. You will see some golf tournaments where even the pros cannot hold a green from the rough. they need tight lies and a good downward strike to create maximum spin. If you pick or even scoop (which is my biggest personal swing flaw) you will have a hard time holding greens with spin and will need to rely more on trajectory. Learn to pinch the ball or at least learn an open faced cut shot to give you greater height and recognize when your lie and the firmness of the greens will impact the runout. As for ProV1 series balls, yes, they will give you better spin than a surlyn covered ball so you are right in playing one of those. Do not buy into the belief that you have to have super high clubhead speed to play them. That is not what the Titleist company ball experts will tell you and you see pros take short swings near the green with the low spinning one-hop checker we all would love to play. That shot is technique, not speed. Good luck in your journey to improve and ideally, seek a professional instructor over a bunch of hackers like myself. Cheers!
  6. Brock L

    Brock L
    Fort Myers, FL

    Dale V said:

    Yep Jon, multiple factors come into play and some will be out of your control. You will see some golf tournaments where even the pros cannot hold a green from the rough. they need tight lies and a good downward strike to create maximum spin. If you pick or even scoop (which is my biggest personal swing flaw) you will have a hard time holding greens with spin and will need to rely more on trajectory. Learn to pinch the ball or at least learn an open faced cut shot to give you greater height and recognize when your lie and the firmness of the greens will impact the runout. As for ProV1 series balls, yes, they will give you better spin than a surlyn covered ball so you are right in playing one of those. Do not buy into the belief that you have to have super high clubhead speed to play them. That is not what the Titleist company ball experts will tell you and you see pros take short swings near the green with the low spinning one-hop checker we all would love to play. That shot is technique, not speed. Good luck in your journey to improve and ideally, seek a professional instructor over a bunch of hackers like myself. Cheers!

    WRONG. Without SPEED, you cannot create SPIN. For players lacking SPEED, you need to increase PEAK HEIGHT to achieve a STEEPER ANGLE OF DESCENT. Folks can try to push one ball on the entire world of golf, but it's ignorant to do so.

    Lower compression balls are designed for lower speed / lower spin players to compensate for those factors. Lower compression means it takes less speed to compress the ball, which leads to more ball speed, more interaction with the club face, higher launch and overall more distance. These are FACTS that Titleist will back up all day, every day.


  7. Mitch B

    Mitch B
    Huntsville, Alabama

    As Dale stated, there are many factors when it comes to increasing green side spin. You should never buy a low compression ball solely because you can’t get your desired spin.

    You cannot just state that increased speed will create more spin for every situation. Lower compression golf balls help those players that need them increase the velocity at a cost of less green side spin.

    The OP would need to have lower than average swing speed to see ANY significant decrease in distance. With a 120 yard 9 iron, switching to a low compression ball would possibly make the low spin problem worse.
  8. Jon B

    Jon B

    Thanks for the responses guys, this is helpful and I can work those issues.

  9. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I qualify as a slow speed T300 using a high launch shaft and a Pro-V. When I make clean contact and not thin, I hold the green. All the way from 48 to 6 iron. Just wish I didn’t thin some shots.
    You might want to check with a pro on outdoor turf on whether you are getting enough launch. Hitting off a mat (indoors) has always been easier to launch than off turf.

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