March 13, 2012 At 08:34 PM By Michael H
Michael HLehi, UT
Whats the best way to hit a fade and a draw? And is it possible to hit these shots with AP1 Irons??
Hans P
Nate SSaint Johns, FL
March 14, 2012 At 01:08 AM
Draw: Swing more from the Inside (Downswing) Fade: Much stronger grip It is possible, but very hard with the AP1's!
If you swing to much from the inside your hands will go away from your body on the thru swing and cause a push fade/slice. A stronger grip and a normal swing will cause a draw/hook depending on how strong the grip is.
Lou GSan Diego, CA
March 26, 2012 At 10:15 AM
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Normal swing. The grip is going to be strong on a draw and weak on a fade anyway because you grip the club AFTER opening or closing the blade.
mark esharon, PA
Jacob LFranklin, IN
April 01, 2012 At 09:31 AM
Making the same swing everytime and manipulating the hands won't produce consistent shots. That's why many of the younger PGA tour players are coming in with more consistent swings that take the hands more out of it. Someone who uses their hands to hit shots will be very inconsistent. See a PGA professional as trying to teach this to yourself is very difficult.
Absolutley,
The easiest way is to set up with the face closed, aim right, and fire away to hit a draw. Do the opposite to hit a fade. As you get better, you will be able to take a normal swing and use your hands to manipulate your ball flight. Go to the range and practice shot shaping until you're really good. I tend to use my position at the top to hit draws and fades. a cupped left wrist at the top = fade. bowed left wrist at top=draw. play shot shaping games with your buddies and you will get it in no time.
March 14, 2012 At 07:49 AM
Absolutley, The easiest way is to set up with the face closed, aim right, and fire away to hit a draw. Do the opposite to hit a fade. As you get better, you will be able to take a normal swing and use your hands to manipulate your ball flight. Go to the range and practice shot shaping until you're really good. I tend to use my position at the top to hit draws and fades. a cupped left wrist at the top = fade. bowed left wrist at top=draw. play shot shaping games with your buddies and you will get it in no time.
Quintin HMorehead, KY
The ball starts in the direction you are swinging, then curves toward the direction the face is pointing.
In general, you need to move the ball forward when hitting a fade to give the club more time to reach the correct swing path, when the clubface is open you will tend to swing more from the inside which if you are playing the ball in your normal ball position will start the ball to the right and then curve more to the right.
In general you need to move the ball back from its normal position when hitting a draw because you will have the correct swing path sooner in your swing and also to prevent over closing of the face. This prevents pulls, hooks, and pull hooks.
Once you learn to make the ball start in the right direction and curve toward the right direction then you need to adjust the amount of opening or closing the face to cause the amount of curve that you want. This is because, 1 every swing is different, and 2 some clubs will cause more curve than others.
You can hit a fade or draw with any club.
Concur with everyone else on ball position and closed stance for draw and open for fade. Swing along foot path in either case. Draws are much easier to hit than fades are. Of all the game improvement irons, Eye 2 are pretty easy to fade and draw.
March 14, 2012 At 08:58 AM
Andrew R
Well it isn't impossible but rather difficult. Now back to subject........
DRAW- move your club so that the toe of the club is facing the ball. (or just slice the ball)
FADE-move your club so that the heel of the club is facing the ball. (or just pull the ball)
Cris MSharpsburg, GA
It sounds like most agree on this; manipulating the club face with your hands or adjusting swing path manually is a dangerous proposition. I was fortunate enough to attend a clinic several years ago with TW.He explained his approach,mane I think it is the simplest and easiest to apply.
When setting up for your shot, you want the club face to point at your target (ie where you want the ball to land). You align your feet (body) with the line you want the ball to start on. You then take a normal swing; no hands or swing plane adjustments necessary. So, if you needed to hit a 20yd fade around a tree, at the flag, you would basically have two targets; the flag and another to the left of the flag that gives you clearance around the tree.
When you address the ball, the club face points at the flag. However, you align your feet as if you were hitting a straight shot at the 2nd target. Hit the shot, and the ball will start toward the second target and fade to the flag. Opposite holds for a draw. Club face at the target, feet aligned with a target to the right of your ultimate target.
Here is a clip from the clinic. He explains it starting around the 2:15 mark. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2vBZ7bKCQ4 Hope this helps and good luck
Cris
Ronald KSan Jose, CA
April 26, 2012 At 08:28 PM
That's exactly the way my Dad taught me 50 years ago! Gotta love the simplicity.
Andrew CTokyo, 0
The way I do it, is for a draw, choose a target on the right of where you want your ball to start. Aim your clubface at that target, but set your feet in a closed stance (Left foot closer to the target line and right foot further away from the target line). Then swing along your foot line to produce a nice draw, making sure that your clubface is pointing at the target at impact. Varying your stance will create more or less draw.
For a fade, do the opposite. Pick a target on the left side of your intended landing area, and line the club-face up with it. This time, open your stance (right foot closer to the target line, and left foot further away from the target line). Swing along your foot line making sure that the face of your club is pointing at the target at impact.
As far as moving the ball up or back in your stance, you are just going to have to play with that a little, to see what works for you. Personally, I am battling a hip slide in my swing which makes my ball positions difficult to nail down. So during my pre-round practice session, I find out what my hips are doing and go with it for that day. For me, typically it means moving the ball forward a 1/2 ball or so , and away from my body another 1/2 ball or so for draws. For my fades, the ball position stays the same as if I were trying to hit a straight shot.
Hope this helps.
TCoblentz
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