Fade and Draw??

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By Jared L

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  1. Jared L

    Jared L
    Klamath Falls, OR

    Been doing some research online on shot shaping and I wanted to get TT thoughts as to my conclusions...

    Fade: Feet and face are pointed left of target and the face is opened up slightly, so its pointing right of feet, but still left of target. Swing with normal path along feet line

    Draw: Feet and face are pointed right of target and face is closed slightly, so that it is pointing left of feet, but still right of target. Swing again would be normal path along feet line

    Using the Fade setup described I was able to create a stronger fade, than what I am naturally seeing with the new 915D2. I tried to draw the ball around a dog leg, and I got the setup wrong (according to this) and ended up hitting the shot to the right.

    I think that I am understanding what he is saying as I was able to achieve the fade, just wanted to see what TT thoughts were on the subject, and if Im correctly understanding the lesson....

  2. Chris Hatem

    Chris Hatem
    Boston

    Interesting article on the topic. http://www.golfwrx.com/251459/use-the-new-ball-flight-laws-to-understand-your-tendencies/

    For all the golf nerds out there, a draw is hit with a slightly open face. Because, for the right handed player, a true draw starts to the right of the target and draws back to it. That cannot be accomplished with the closed club face pull which some incorrectly  refer to as a draw! Think about it... 

    Fairways + Greens - Snow 

  3. Jared L

    Jared L
    Klamath Falls, OR

    Chris Hatem said:

    Interesting article on the topic. http://www.golfwrx.com/251459/use-the-new-ball-flight-laws-to-understand-your-tendencies/

    For all the golf nerds out there, a draw is hit with a slightly open face. Because, for the right handed player, a true draw starts to the right of the target and draws back to it. That cannot be accomplished with the closed club face pull which some incorrectly  refer to as a draw! Think about it... 

    Fairways + Greens - Snow 

    Chris, 
    First I hate snow.
    Second in the above example the club face would still remain open to target, just slightly closed to feet.. In the above video the ball clearly starts to the right of target and draws back to target...
  4. Chris Hatem

    Chris Hatem
    Boston

    I agree Jared! Let's make this snow go away, please.  My thoughts on draw and fade are that if you choose to make one your go to shot you can "eliminate half the course." The method you described above seems good if it works. I tend not to worry about my feet as much since you can leave your feet in the same spot and change swing path slightly.

  5. Dan H

    Dan H
    Yulee, FL

    Jared, 

    Great post!!  I am a prominent right handed fade player which is nice as I know that trouble on the left is not really a concern to me.  Ideally my thoughts are to try to swing a little like Stricker with a stiff left arm and I need to always make sure I complete my take away.  My misses tend to be either quick swings or not finishing my take away which feels like I slap across the ball some and not through the ball.  I dont have a great deal of time for practice or rounds these days but the only way to shoot great scores is to have a consistent swing and have trust in that swing during the round is my philosophy so I don't worry about going left too much.  

  6. Richard H

    Richard H
    Grand Prairie, TX

    I've had this conversation with my instructor before, and we both agreed that while the "new" ball flight laws are accurate that the easiest way to achieve a desired ball flight is to setup based on the "old" ball flight laws. Basically, a face that is open to the club path will produce a fade and a face that is closed to the club path will produce a draw. However you achieve that is up to you, but those are my feelings on it and it seems to work for me. I will note that I find a draw is much more difficult to hit than a fade, but I fade the ball naturally anyway so making it fade more really isn't difficult at all.

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