Stop Slicing!

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By Nick Z

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  1. Nick Z

    Nick Z

    HELP WANTED! I've been golfing for about 10 years and within the past 2-3 years have developed a fairly bad (20 yd) slice! I've been told I tend to come over the top, and as I try to swing more inside out I still can't seem to square the club face. Desperate for any tips/tricks for the stubborn slicer who's exhausted Youtube instructional videos!

  2. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    Having a trusted pro works best. In the meantime have you looked under instructors on this web page? Michael Breed has one on how to hit a draw. Before you build the plastic frame you can just use someone to hold a swim noodle to help you get in a lower plane.
  3. Dave M

    Dave M

    Club path and face angle are the 2 key ingredients. "Over the top" or "out to in" is a slice club path. Even if your face angle is perfect and on target you will slice with an out to in path. Even if your face angle is closed to the target it can be open relative to your path and you will still slice. Best way to fix is to see for yourself on a trackman video lesson with a pro. Whenever i see the over the top move its usually the guy trying for more distance and gets fast or a little jerky during the transition to the downswing and gets his hands out in front of him which leads to the out to in path. Focus on keeping the club behind you a little longer and gradually accelerate through the ball so your fast move is right before and after impact not the first move as you start the downswing- its fixable, just gotta identify if it is club path or face angle thengo from there.
  4. BCarroll

    BCarroll

    The easy answer is to get a lesson, but perhaps like you I'm reluctant to get a lesson because it's hard to find a good instructor with available time around here.

    One thing I have been doing lately that I have hope will help is video myself. Start with Youtube and find the best camera angles and video your range sessions. Add a slow-motion view from time to time to get a great view of different parts of your swing.

    I learned I was taking the club back inside very early in the backswing which left me no room to easily swing from the inside on the downswing. Its easy to see - when you know what you're looking for - but that brings us back to a lesson. A good pro will know what to look for.

    Good Luck.
    Bryan
  5. Joshua B

    Joshua B

    Michael Breed is worth watching in my opinion, he helped me understand better than anything/one I looked into. Best thing I found is to take the club more inside on the backswing, and add a weak grip (hand is more on top and knuckles showing to you rather than underneath like a baseball bat grip). That instantly had me hooking the ball, which I was able to slowly work straight. The slice is awful, best of luck with working it out.
  6. Paul T

    Paul T
    alpharetta, GA

    Pro instruction is best, but best advice I can offer is:
    1. Focus on clubface control (pertains to grip too). (if righty) Your left hand controls the clubface, pay attention to grip and how the face is aligned throughout your swing. Go slow mo, do half shots.

    2. Practice in slow motion and doing no more than 1/2 shots. Every time I go to my instructor, we inevitable end up engraining a feel or position by only doing small swings. I many time go to the range and hit full buckets only with 1/2 swings. Limit your backswing...typically nothing good happens when you go too deep and lose control of the club on the backswing.

    good luck
  7. Nate M

    Nate M
    West Michigan

    You're probably coming over the top. Can't tell without video but it's a pretty good guess. Or it should be as simple as your club face is creeping open. Make sure it's square to the target. If it is, then try this...
    Next time you're at the range, try kicking your back foot back about 1 foot, so your toes are even with the heels on your front foot and take a nice smooth swing. Having your foot back should help your get your swing path inside to out. Keep making a few swings like that. Then inch your back foot up little by little and see if you can keep that swing path. Your trying to get your upper and lower body rotating while your arms are dropping in, not swinging out to in, and getting the weight transfer to your front foot
  8. Mike M

    Mike M
    Marblehead MA

    Don O Nad Joshua B are right; Michael Breed is worth watching and you should come away with some positive insight, and of course a teaching professional will be able to help fix the problem.

    In the mean time if you need a visual, either on the course or the range,here is a simple swing thought that might help,and has helped me.By the way,what Dave M said is absolutely true; as long as your swinging outside to inside the ball s going to cut, fade, slice or all of the above.

    Visualize a large clock right in front of you,and try to swing toward 1:00.Practice taking it back slow, and reach for 1;00 at the finish. That visual promotes an in to out path, resulting in a draw.

    Hope this helps.
  9. Lance P

    Lance P
    Hillsborough, NC

    I like Mike M's clock idea. Look forward to trying it next time I'm at the range!
  10. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military
    Please, go see a teaching pro and let him look at your set up and swing pattern.

    Too many cooks in the kitchen can make a bad omelet and that is how I feel about getting advice off of a forum, unless they are a certified teaching instructor. I go see my Master Instructor every now and then. Talked to him about my bunker issues and it really helped in todays round.

    With respect.
  11. Mike M

    Mike M
    Marblehead MA

    Chuck, with the utmost respect, the thing with teaching pros are, their hourly rate may be more than some folks can handle, especially if they don't have a lot of discretionary income.I'm certain within the TT community, some folks have more disposable income than others. Everyone, would love a teaching pros assessment ,when something detrimental occurs in the golf swing that needs attention.But when it comes down to choosing between the cost of an hour with a teaching pro every time something goes wrong vs. the cost of an 18 hole round, Im taking exercise, sunshine, and playing the game I love every time.

    There are many accomplished players within this community who may have some thoughtful and positive insight into a swing issue that another member may be having. And who knows... that advice may be just what the Dr. ordered.

    You've been a prolific champion of the teaching professional,which is consistently apparent in a majority of your
    responses. I am too; I know quite a few teaching pros (a lot of my college team mates are club or teaching pros today) All I'm saying is if a player can pick up some positive feedback from accomplished players within the TT circle....it's not necessarily a bad thing.

    Again, with the autos respect.
  12. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military

    Mike M said:

    Chuck, with the utmost respect, the thing with teaching pros are, their hourly rate may be more than some folks can handle, especially if they don't have a lot of discretionary income.I'm certain within the TT community, some folks have more disposable income than others. Everyone, would love a teaching pros assessment ,when something detrimental occurs in the golf swing that needs attention.But when it comes down to choosing between the cost of an hour with a teaching pro every time something goes wrong vs. the cost of an 18 hole round, Im taking exercise, sunshine, and playing the game I love every time.

    There are many accomplished players within this community who may have some thoughtful and positive insight into a swing issue that another member may be having. And who knows... that advice may be just what the Dr. ordered.

    You've been a prolific champion of the teaching professional,which is consistently apparent in a majority of your
    responses. I am too; I know quite a few teaching pros (a lot of my college team mates are club or teaching pros today) All I'm saying is if a player can pick up some positive feedback from accomplished players within the TT circle....it's not necessarily a bad thing.

    Again, with the autos respect.

    Guess I am blessed to have friends that are PGA pros.
  13. Mike M

    Mike M
    Marblehead MA

    Sorry Chuck (I hate autofill). I meant utmost respect.
  14. Patrick Z

    Patrick Z

    I agree with Chuck, we all need a teaching pro (handy if it is the pro at your regular club) to have a conversation able our game. Even if you don't have a lot of lessons they will be able to guide you through the merry-go-round of golf issues.

    I take a video of my swing when something is changing (both good and bad) and show my pro and go through the what is happening, so that I can change or reinforce what is happening.

    Until it is fixed I suggest aiming 20 yards left (if right handed) at left it come back to the middle of the fairway
  15. Mitch B

    Mitch B
    Huntsville, Alabama

    FWIW, 20 yards is not that bad. Obviously most people want to hit the ball straight, but if you can control your 20 yard slice/fade, you can be consistent. That said, I tend to slice it when I swing harder. My suggestion would just be slowing down your swing.
  16. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military

    Mitch B said:

    FWIW, 20 yards is not that bad. Obviously most people want to hit the ball straight, but if you can control your 20 yard slice/fade, you can be consistent. That said, I tend to slice it when I swing harder. My suggestion would just be slowing down your swing.

    Big difference in a slice and a fade and keeping it in the short grass and loosing distance. I hit my drives pretty straight, but I can count on my butter cut or fade which I need on some courses to be in the middle. There is very little control with a slice and you loose a great deal of yardage, but with a small fade you have control and lose only a small bit of distance over the straight ball or draw. I have been there with the slicing and went to a pro years ago and let's say the middle of the fairway is so much more fun. With respect.
  17. Steve K

    Steve K

    First of all, see a reputable teaching pro!
    But Freddie Couples had an interesting take In 93 and one which is opposite to today’s teaching methods of the flat or bowed wrist at the top, but worth a read...
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